Wikiviajes:La posada/Archivos/2021/03


19:08 1 mar 2021 (UTC)

Wikifunctions logo contest

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01:51 2 mar 2021 (UTC)

17:51 8 mar 2021 (UTC)

New features (Modules and Templates)

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Translations

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I will install the features from WV/de here. I've just transfered one module to this wiki. How about translations?

  • Module names should be kept.
  • I will create the templates in English. Feel free to rename/redirect into Spanish later, if needed.
  • Most modules use maintenance categories. I think its wise to translate the category name in the module or template before I create it. Redirects with categories are not nice. Aren't they?

I started a list for translation. We can move it to a proper name or project namespace if needed. I will write down all changes you have to do (normally translations). Maybe it's useful to mark list items as "checked" or "done", after tranlsation. Most work I will do on next weekend. Currently more looking around and finding my way.

I am aware that the translation of the template documentation is a lot of work. But it works anyway and can be done later. The translation of the system messages of the modules have hight priority.

VCards and Markers

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The two new templates (including their depending modules) provide the new markers and listings. They both use Wikidata. The only mandantory parameters are a name, type and wikidata ID. Everything else can be fetched from Wikidata (including opening time, WiFi, credit cards, opening hours...).

  • {{Marker}} is the new template. The redirect is removed. When finished, {{Marcador}} could redirect to the new template.
  • {{VCard}} is the new template. This redirect is removed as well. {{Listado}} shoud redirect to the new template, as well as {{ver}}, {{hacer}}, {{comprar}}, {{comer}}, {{beber}}, {{dormir}}. The symbols in the wikitext editor should be removed because all these separate listungs are outdated. Update 19:34 CET: All your listing templates use the new vcard module now. {{listado}} is the new standard template name now. Unlike my first thought {{VCard}} will be the redirect, but should stay available in case you import articles from other language versions like voy:de for a translation. So you do not have to replace all the templates.

Meanwhile I dectivated the symbols in the editor. I would redirect the listing templates later or tomorrow (depending on my time).

This is one example of full Wikidata usage. Its a restaurant in my hometown Cottbus:

  • {​{vCard | name = Mythos | type = restaurant | wikidata = Q100428037 | auto = y | description = Very good ... }}
  • 1 Mythos, Sandower Str. 54, 03046 Cottbus (direkt gegenüber der Oberkirche). +49 (0)355 494 98 77, : . Very good and well known Greek restaurant with stylish interior and brisk staff. Características: Acceso en silla de ruedas, Sin wifi, Cocina griega. 🕓 lun, Mie–Jue 5:00 pm–11:00 pm; Vie–Sab 11:30 am–2:30 pm, 5:00 pm–12:00 am; dom 11:30 am–2:30 pm, 5:00 pm–11:00 pm. Formas de pago aceptadas: VISA, Mastercard, Maestro.

The parameters are in english but you can use Spanish aliases. All information can be fetched from Wikidata if you use a parameter with a value, the local value will win and is shown. The templates have an parameter "auto". If you switch it on, everything available at Wikidata is shown.

At the end of every listing is an "info" link. It's the "taxi button". Click on it and popup message about appears. It shows the information again. on the first site a message is shown "Please take me to..." and the address. If you jump into a cab, press the button and show it to the taxi driver. The popup windows knows the country of your article. Have you opened an article about a Thai city, the popup windows writes the "Please take me to..." text in Thai language and script. The second language is your own language (wiki user setting).

The coloured number has got a tooltip. Hold your mouse on it and you can see some tools. On mobile version the coloured number has alittle arrow to open it with your finger.

The parameter |wikipedia= is outdated and should be removed. If there is a wikipedia article, it has a WIkidata entry. So you should use the Wikidata ID instead of Wikipedia link.

If you need a new type for an object you can add it here:

Listing editor

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The new listing editor works now. Just click on the edit ("bearbeiten") button at the end of the listing. The yellow background is a signal, that this information is available at Wikidata. Choose auto = "ja" the activate the "show everything from WD" option. Information are not copied from Wikidata, what does not make any sense. They are taken from WD shown live. Translation ist diffucult because its in the Mediawiki namespace. You can send me the Spanish text, if you can not edit it.

Mapframe

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{{Mapframe}} is completely replaced by a new version: Two parametres are removed:

  • |capa= Its outdated, and was used in an older version of maps
  • |mapa_estático= doesn'zt make sense. If somebody want to show a static map, just use the wiki markup for images. The new modules can show unknown parametres and put them into a maintenance category. Existing articles can be fixed that way.

I added the Spanish parameters to the parameter list: |alto=, |ancho=, |posición= should be understood. Even shaps can dded directly without using {{Mapshapes}}.

You can add more than one map to an article and show some markers on a special map, e.g. to show diving site in a separate bigger map in an island article.

Mapshape(s)

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Mapshapes can be stated in the {{mapframe}} call as well, without using separate templates. But sometimes its usefull to use them iin the proper section of the article to easily identify them.

  • {{Mapshapes}} can show shapes from Commons and Wikidata (Openstreetmap). See an example (public transport of Vienna) on the documentation site.
  • {{Mapshape}} does the same for a single shape.

Outdated modules and templates

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The following modules and templates are outdated and can be deleted.

  • {{Poi}} - not used anyway and now replaced by {{Marker}}

Other taskes and requests

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I have imported Plantilla:Plantilla con Lua from Spanish Wikipedia, but it uses a template "Aviso" to show the message. Could somebody replace it with one of your own infobox templates? Thanks. -- DerFussi (discusión) 20:49 2 mar 2021 (UTC)[responder]

done of done of Plantilla con Lua. --Hispano76 (discusión) 21:08 2 mar 2021 (UTC)[responder]

Maintenance to be done on existing articles

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  • Removing the |wikipedia= from the listings and add the Wikidata ID instead.
Category:VCard: Parameter wikipedia benutzt has a list of all pages where wikipedia parameters are used without using a wikidata parameter. Pages with empty wikipedia parameter are not listed. --RolandUnger (discusión) 09:14 8 mar 2021 (UTC)[responder]

¡Pocas horas para iniciar NewsVoyage!

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¡Oh mira! Un logo salvaje ha aparecido. Únete <3

NewsVoyage es un edit-a-thon colaborativo entre Wikiviajes y Wikinoticias propuesto por Wikimedia Small Projects User Group como una forma de motivar a que más editores participen y entre todos puedan mejorar o crear nuevas guías de edición y artículos periodísticos.
Es por eso que desde el 3 de febrero y hasta el 3 de marzo de 2021, dará inicio dicho concurso en el cual apoyarás a que Wikiviajes y Wikinoticias tengan tantas guías y noticias que sea posible escribir en un mes.
Los premios a repartir serán los siguientes para cada proyecto:

Wikiviajes en español
Primer lugar: Tarjeta de regalo de 100$
Segundo lugar: Tarjeta de regalo de 50$
Tercer lugar: Tarjeta de regalo de 25$
Wikinoticias en español
Primer lugar: Tarjeta de regalo de 100$
Segundo lugar: Tarjeta de regalo de 50$
Tercer lugar: Tarjeta de regalo de 25$

Pero espera, ¡aún hay más! Dado que tenemos muchísimo trabajo en Wikiviajes y Wikinoticias, hemos creado varios retos para que sean completados y obtener un gran premio.

¡Toma tus maletas virtuales, inscríbete en el concurso y que arranquen los motores! para participar en eswikivoyage clic aquí, para participar en eswikinews clic acá.

¡Te esperamos!
Galahad (sasageyo!)(esvoy)
02:16, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
(¿Página incorrecta? ¡Arréglalo aquí!)

Los organizadores del evento NewsVoyage se disculpan por el retraso en la publicación de los ganadores del editatón. ¡pronto sabremos a los ganadores! --Hispano76 (discusión) 18:50 15 mar 2021 (UTC)[responder]

23:22 15 mar 2021 (UTC)

16:53 22 mar 2021 (UTC)

Propuestas para votaciones

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¡Hola! En vista de que, por el bajo número de usuarios activos, resulta difícil alcanzar el umbral de votos para las votaciones, propongo hacer algunos cambios a Wikiviajes:Votaciones. Primero, extender el tiempo para las candidaturas a administrador a 14 días o a 30 días. Segundo, para las votaciones que no alcanzan el umbral en el plazo establecido, dar un tiempo de prórroga, por ejemplo, de 7 días; si al final del tiempo de prórroga, la votación no alcanza el umbral, esta será aprobada si solo tiene votos a favor. Estas propuestas buscan que usuarios que no sean tan activos puedan participar, ya que una semana es . ¡Saludos! --Julián L. Páez (discusión) 02:14 23 mar 2021 (UTC)[responder]

New features (Modules and Templates)

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Translations

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I will install the features from WV/de here. I've just transfered one module to this wiki. How about translations?

  • Module names should be kept.
  • I will create the templates in English. Feel free to rename/redirect into Spanish later, if needed.
  • Most modules use maintenance categories. I think its wise to translate the category name in the module or template before I create it. Redirects with categories are not nice. Aren't they?

I started a list for translation. We can move it to a proper name or project namespace if needed. I will write down all changes you have to do (normally translations). Maybe it's useful to mark list items as "checked" or "done", after tranlsation. Most work I will do on next weekend. Currently more looking around and finding my way.

I am aware that the translation of the template documentation is a lot of work. But it works anyway and can be done later. The translation of the system messages of the modules have hight priority.

VCards and Markers

editar

The two new templates (including their depending modules) provide the new markers and listings. They both use Wikidata. The only mandantory parameters are a name, type and wikidata ID. Everything else can be fetched from Wikidata (including opening time, WiFi, credit cards, opening hours...).

  • {{Marker}} is the new template. The redirect is removed. When finished, {{Marcador}} could redirect to the new template.
  • {{VCard}} is the new template. This redirect is removed as well. {{Listado}} shoud redirect to the new template, as well as {{ver}}, {{hacer}}, {{comprar}}, {{comer}}, {{beber}}, {{dormir}}. The symbols in the wikitext editor should be removed because all these separate listungs are outdated. Update 19:34 CET: All your listing templates use the new vcard module now. {{listado}} is the new standard template name now. Unlike my first thought {{VCard}} will be the redirect, but should stay available in case you import articles from other language versions like voy:de for a translation. So you do not have to replace all the templates.

Meanwhile I dectivated the symbols in the editor. I would redirect the listing templates later or tomorrow (depending on my time).

This is one example of full Wikidata usage. Its a restaurant in my hometown Cottbus:

  • {​{vCard | name = Mythos | type = restaurant | wikidata = Q100428037 | auto = y | description = Very good ... }}
  • 2 Mythos, Sandower Str. 54, 03046 Cottbus (direkt gegenüber der Oberkirche). +49 (0)355 494 98 77, : . Very good and well known Greek restaurant with stylish interior and brisk staff. Características: Acceso en silla de ruedas, Sin wifi, Cocina griega. 🕓 lun, Mie–Jue 5:00 pm–11:00 pm; Vie–Sab 11:30 am–2:30 pm, 5:00 pm–12:00 am; dom 11:30 am–2:30 pm, 5:00 pm–11:00 pm. Formas de pago aceptadas: VISA, Mastercard, Maestro.

The parameters are in english but you can use Spanish aliases. All information can be fetched from Wikidata if you use a parameter with a value, the local value will win and is shown. The templates have an parameter "auto". If you switch it on, everything available at Wikidata is shown.

At the end of every listing is an "info" link. It's the "taxi button". Click on it and popup message about appears. It shows the information again. on the first site a message is shown "Please take me to..." and the address. If you jump into a cab, press the button and show it to the taxi driver. The popup windows knows the country of your article. Have you opened an article about a Thai city, the popup windows writes the "Please take me to..." text in Thai language and script. The second language is your own language (wiki user setting).

The coloured number has got a tooltip. Hold your mouse on it and you can see some tools. On mobile version the coloured number has alittle arrow to open it with your finger.

The parameter |wikipedia= is outdated and should be removed. If there is a wikipedia article, it has a WIkidata entry. So you should use the Wikidata ID instead of Wikipedia link.

If you need a new type for an object you can add it here:

Listing editor

editar

The new listing editor works now. Just click on the edit ("bearbeiten") button at the end of the listing. The yellow background is a signal, that this information is available at Wikidata. Choose auto = "ja" the activate the "show everything from WD" option. Information are not copied from Wikidata, what does not make any sense. They are taken from WD shown live. Translation ist diffucult because its in the Mediawiki namespace. You can send me the Spanish text, if you can not edit it.

Mapframe

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{{Mapframe}} is completely replaced by a new version: Two parametres are removed:

  • |capa= Its outdated, and was used in an older version of maps
  • |mapa_estático= doesn'zt make sense. If somebody want to show a static map, just use the wiki markup for images. The new modules can show unknown parametres and put them into a maintenance category. Existing articles can be fixed that way.

I added the Spanish parameters to the parameter list: |alto=, |ancho=, |posición= should be understood. Even shaps can dded directly without using {{Mapshapes}}.

You can add more than one map to an article and show some markers on a special map, e.g. to show diving site in a separate bigger map in an island article.

Mapshape(s)

editar

Mapshapes can be stated in the {{mapframe}} call as well, without using separate templates. But sometimes its usefull to use them iin the proper section of the article to easily identify them.

  • {{Mapshapes}} can show shapes from Commons and Wikidata (Openstreetmap). See an example (public transport of Vienna) on the documentation site.
  • {{Mapshape}} does the same for a single shape.

Outdated modules and templates

editar

The following modules and templates are outdated and can be deleted.

  • {{Poi}} - not used anyway and now replaced by {{Marker}}

Other taskes and requests

editar

I have imported Plantilla:Plantilla con Lua from Spanish Wikipedia, but it uses a template "Aviso" to show the message. Could somebody replace it with one of your own infobox templates? Thanks. -- DerFussi (discusión) 20:49 2 mar 2021 (UTC)[responder]

done of done of Plantilla con Lua. --Hispano76 (discusión) 21:08 2 mar 2021 (UTC)[responder]

Maintenance to be done on existing articles

editar
  • Removing the |wikipedia= from the listings and add the Wikidata ID instead.
Category:VCard: Parameter wikipedia benutzt has a list of all pages where wikipedia parameters are used without using a wikidata parameter. Pages with empty wikipedia parameter are not listed. --RolandUnger (discusión) 09:14 8 mar 2021 (UTC)[responder]
Done Done The category was completely cleaned up, although it still lists an article (Minas) for some reason I don't know, when the Wikipedia parameters it had were removed. Bromoxido (discusión) 00:56 27 mar 2021 (UTC)[responder]

17:31 29 mar 2021 (UTC)